Andrew and Andrea www.black-magic.org.uk Related to Bellatrix

[Phantumgirl5]

www.black-magic.org.uk

Anyone heard of or used Andrew and Andrea from black-magic.org.uk? They're discussed on spellsforum, and one person believes he's had results. The others have only had readings, I believe.

[Hope]

At least the have been in business since last year
Domain name:
black-magic.org.uk
Registrant:
M Dawson
Relevant dates:
Registered on: 15-Mar-2009
Renewal date: 15-Mar-2011
Last updated: 01-Jun-2010


Their spells are not cheap, and I read they were asking for "names, dates of birth, addresses, phone numbers, photos or other information you can supply"

Never give the address or phone number of anyone you are casting a spell for to ANYONE, you never know who the caster is and they may end up blackmailing you!

My 2 cents ...

[daisy]

I agree with Hope, NEVER give phone numbers or addresses!!! Big No NO

[Phantumgirl5]

Yeah, I would flat out refuse to give them my phone number and address. One thing I don't get is why they won't allow clients to contact them by phone? It seems like they would have no problem speaking over the phone if somebody preferred to.

[lovespellseeker]

I used them several months ago...no results. Just my experience.

[LoveProblem]

Some people I know also did not see results - my personal feel is that this is definitely a no-no

[teacup]

NO!

[Unregistered]

No results at all and they get very rude when you adress them or ask questions about it.

[yokum67]

Hiya Forum, Was just reading about them at there UK website I was interested in money spell wealth attraction, Shame no one as had any results. I was reading that one of there spells is £1500 pounds and they spend 10 hours casting it WOW that along time

Would be interested if anyone can recommend a money Wealth attraction spell

Thanks Forum

Oh and Merry Christmas everyone

[cheekaboo]

Hi Yokum

There's a members section here with a thread I found http://www.spsreviewforum.com/thread...=wealth+spells

There's also money drawing oils, mojo's, candles, charms, lamps, setting of lights rituals - things to draw money to you, things you can wear etc..I would research S.E, Lucky Mojo, Vescha, people have mentioned karmazain. Just a GOOD, REPUTABLE rootworker just research

[yokum67]

Hello again Forum, Well I have decided to give Andrew and Andrea ago and bought they Return lover Spell for £100 pounds , As fare as I can say they have been very polite and professional so far and well updates to follow, I have read some people did not get any results, BUT that's the same for me, with the other 2 casters I used, SO I am optimistic about A & A Keep the Faith Brian

[cheekaboo]

Oh Brian.....

[tangliss]

Brian, have you thought about trying out Yaya Maria, Claudia, Paulo Bispo or another trusted caster on the forum? I just get a bad vibe from these guys and as you have lost quite a bit of money on casters, I don't want you to waste more. Of course it's ultimately your decision and I wish you the best in whatever you decide. All I ask is to please think carefully about this first.

[Hope]

Hello again Forum, Well I have decided to give Andrew and Andrea ago and bought they Return lover Spell for £100 pounds , As fare as I can say they have been very polite and professional so far and well updates to follow, I have read some people did not get any results, BUT that's the same for me, with the other 2 casters I used, SO I am optimistic about A & A Keep the Faith Brian

why do you keep talking about them if you have not used them ? Have you been able to talk to any of them to verify they are real people?

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Before you invest your money, do a good research, this page is as vague as it could be, "Andrew and Andrea" could be anyone.

I found this link in facebook:

www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=219517448201636&story_fbid=221718227981558

and I think it has a very telling mistake, if you read to the end of the link you will find this text:

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The text does not get there by itself, IMO they can be related to antrikbaba666@gmail.com or be the same person

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this is the facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black...19517448201636

and the picture is probably fake, nothing to do with the picture they have in the other website

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PayPal payments go to : Unicorn

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I think the person who runs this page could be in India, if someone can get email headers from them, please let me know and i will investigate further.
@yokumo is it possible for you to PM me the headers from their emails?

[yokum67]

Hello Forum, I just felt a connection with them thats all

Silly me if they are another load of scammers, I am slowly working my way threw them lol

Wish me luck and thanks for the kind thoughts !!

Brian

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Dear Hope

here is a header from one of there emails to me

Re: Hello Again From Brian Croose

From	A&A info@black-magic.org.uk
To	XXXXXXX

hope this helps

Oh and the Face book link you gave is nothing to do with them

Thanks Brian

[joeyt1969]

Brian.... Sorry to hear about your misfortunes with them. There are some great resources of other psychics on this site! Good luck!

[Hope]

Oh and the Face book link you gave is nothing to do with them

Thanks Brian

How do you know that? Did you ask them? It talks about them and the "black magick" Did you read the page?

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...21718227981558

black magicAndrea and myself Andrew, work together casting black magic spells for transformation. Andrea is a gifted psychic who uses her powers to look at a client's life and situation, then together we write up a customised black magic spell that will reshape your reality, and prove to you dreams can come true.
Black magic penetrates all blockages, barriers and restrictions, it quite literally works ‘like magic.’ Unfortunately many people fear ‘black magic’ and a lot of our clients have used several ‘white’ witches without success before they start thinking about ' black magic?' After reading through this website they realise black magic holds the answer to their troubles.
As mentioned above, black magic penetrates all obstacles, it is not blocked by thoughts of failure, free will, or any form of negativity - black magic gets what it wants, it doesn't find excuses. Either you want spell results or you don’t? If the answer is "yes", then you need uninhabited, potent black magic. Andrea and myself (A & A) always use full OCCULT PROTECTION and ensure nothing backfires, we have full control at all times. You can read more about black magic at BLACK MAGIC.
If you are in agony, with an heart full of hurt and pain you will find a solution at BLACK MAGIC LOVE SPELLS. Or perhaps you are being bullied, and need to turn a situation around and ensure you are in control? If so, our BLACK MAGIC REVENGE SPELLS will work very well for you.
Should you have any questions about our black magic spells, please go to our QUESTIONS page or write to us CONTACT US
Andrea and I, welcome clients who know what they want, there is no need for a consultation BECAUSE Black Magic Spells works no matter what. However, if you prefer to contact us first for advice please do.
We do not offer phone, or personal consultations at the moment, but you are very welcome to email your questions to us a&a@black-magic.org.uk
YOU MUST BE 21 OR OVER TO USE OUR SERVICES.

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I deleted your email from the above post, I will PM you the instructions on how to get the email headers

[yokum67]

Hiya HOPE

I have sent you a private message and hope it contains the Headers you were asking for

Regards Brian

[yokum67]

Well its been 4 weeks since they cast my spell, NO real movement, but keep having lots of positive dreams, and I am great believer in dreams coming True !! as I have many , and I mean many dreams come true over the year !!

I am in contact with Andrea and write every 4 - 5 days and she says

That the Spell is still on track !! but is early days

Just thought i would share my experience Thus Far

Thanks

[yokum67]

Updates

Well its coming up 8 weeks this weekend, 25th of May, since my Love spell was cast, Still no contact from my EX, I do write a short message every week asking for any feedback from Andrea, She says everything is still on track !!

But I was hoping for some movement before now

Not sure what else to add

[Hope]

i wish i could say something nicer, but i am afraid this page is just another scam

[yokum67]

Oh dear that is a massive shame and upset !!

I really thought they were legit !!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

THanks everyone

[Lalala143]

Hello, I used A&A sometime in January 2014. A few months ago I got an email from them with the title CUNTRe: Notification Payment Received. When I checked the e-mail it was exactly the one I sent them a few days back, but this time on the CC. It said Justin and Cat (justin_toper@hotmail.com). I e-mailed them about it, but they have not responded. Who is Justin Toper?

[Hope]

Justin Toper is a UK astrologer who a well known scammer always mentions on his internet fights, every time someone makes a scam report about him, he blames it on Justin Toper and Cat, he also had a big fight with Original Ninja Cat when he added her site to a list of scam sites.

I think we have here another page that belongs to the crazy owner of Bellatrix, www.blackmagiclovespells.co.uk and Carmen

We have a topic on him:

http://www.spsreviewforum.com/thread...ls-co-uk/page3

[joeyt1969]

The spells of a known scammer are working for you? Hmmm........

[Hope]

ok, stop trying to join the forum to promote this scam !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Pages related to this scam:
www.blackmagicspells.co.uk
www.love-spells-witch.co.uk
www.saulat.com
www.blackmagiclovespells.co.uk
www.witchcraft-magic-spells.com and witchcraftmagicspells.org

The latest fake poster was posting from Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK, the same city where this page was registered, sorry but scam posts are deleted in order to protect forum members

http://www.who.is/domain-history/black-magic.org.uk

Old Registrar Info December 05, 2011
Domain name: black-magic.org.uk
Registrant: M Dawson
Registrant type: UK Individual
Registrant's address: Flat 20
58 Low Friar Street
Newcastle upon Tyne
NE1 5UD
United Kingdom

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 15-Mar-2009
Renewal date: 15-Mar-2013
Last updated: 12-Apr-2011


Registrar Info July 06, 2014
Domain name: black-magic.org.uk
Registrant: M Dawson
Registrant type: Unknown
Registrant's address:
Flat 30, 6 Slington House
Basingstoke
Hertfordshire
RG24 8PH
United Kingdom

Data validation:
Registrant contact details validated by Nominet on 10-Dec-2012


Relevant dates:
Registered on: 15-Mar-2009
Expiry date: 15-Mar-2015
Last updated: 15-Dec-2012

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The registration email is the one used by Carmen love-spells-witch.co.uk another SCAM

http://www.who.is/whois/love-spells-witch.co.uk

Domain name: love-spells-witch.co.uk
Registrant: C Carmen
Registrant type: UK Sole Trader
Registrant's address: Room 30
Office 6, Slington House
Rankine Road
Baskingstoke
Hampshire
RG24 8PH
United Kingdom

Data validation:
Registrant contact details validated by Nominet on 10-Dec-2012

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 18-Apr-2006
Expiry date: 18-Apr-2015
Last updated: 05-Apr-2014